فضاء تنسيقي خاص بمادة الانجليزية .

[" أبو عبود"]

provide me your e mail I'll send you the plannings I got from the net and I'll send you mine as soon as I finish them. or I can send them to you and you do whatever you want. just fill in the charts

[oum didou]

Thank you very much ,Sir . I have understood .But where can I find your e-mail?

[" أبو عبود"]

hebbelm55 aat yahoo dot ca

[oum didou]

Hello, your e-mail doesn't work I can't send you any message.

[" أبو عبود"]

it's working believe me. i can't write the @ and the dot

[maramdou]

salam,my teachers and thank you for the help
I need you to suply me with
The New Yearly Plannings for ms1 and ms2
also some samples of the teaching cards of these two years

[oum didou]

Hello, where are you Mr Riadh ? Have you recieved my message?

[" أبو عبود"]

yes I have. I'll send you what i did and hope you w<ill appreciate it and find it useful

[" أبو عبود"]

I can't download the attached file you sent.

[" أبو عبود"]

ok I have just sent you two files. one for 1am and 2 am. the other for 3 am and 4 am. i haven't finished everything yet.

[" أبو عبود"]

Hi colleagues.
Here is an excellent site where you can find adequate text for your exams. I really appreciate it.

[" أبو عبود"]

http://www.myenglishpages.com/site_php_files/reading.php#.UokLLXC-qk9

[nina02]

hi collleagues .
Some questions about the 4th year programme
File two , Read and consider ,expressing possibility with "might " is omitted .Shall we keep the text as it is or try to adapt it (text : newspaper report with professor Malcolm Kane )
thanks in advance .

[nina02]

hi
thanks Mr. Riyad for the site .I've just checked it , it's really useful .There are different kinds of texts and this is what we need .
Thanks so much for sharing with us your efforts .May Allah reward you .

[nina02]

hi again
another question about file 2 (4th year ) Reading and writing , the text about the robots .Shall we adapt it or let it as it is and neglect the modal "might " which occurs in the text ?
I think that they have to change these books as soon as possible .

[" أبو عبود"]

You are not obliged to use those texts. If you can adapt them it's ok otherwise find and text that fits the objective and the grammar points to be taught. And be sure they will change the book next year.
I remember a teacher in a middke school didn't use the book during the whole year. I don't really know what was she doing without the text book.

[nina02]

thanks so much for your advice .

[" أبو عبود"]

My pleasure

[oum didou]

. Thanks a lot Mr Ryadh .May Allah bless you

[maramdou]

salam,thank you for the help
I need you to suply me with
The New Yearly Plannings for ms1 and ms2
also some samples of the teaching cards of these two years

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

salam,thank you for the help
I need you to suply me with
The New Yearly Plannings for ms1 and ms2
also some samples of the teaching cards of these two years







Salam

for the file plans

here is FIle tow for the MS1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3tgea81zng0i3a8/ms1%20level%20file%202%20family%20%26%20friend%20a ccording%20to%20atf%20%26%20aef%20competencies%20a nd%20ppu%20%26%20pdp%20lesson%20plans%202.pdf



and for the MS2

here is file 2

http://www.4shared.com/office/HfxBbIbY/MS2_level_File2_********_Game_.html?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tsuy8md757wc2o8/MS2%20level%20File2%20********%20Game%20%28%20PPU% 20%26%20PDP%29%20%20%281%29.pdf

Sorry for the yearly plannings I just planned the one of the MS4 coz it contains too much changes


Good Luck

[" أبو عبود"]

salam alaykom Mr. Bounab.
I'm sending you what I have prepared so far and asking you to tell me what you think about the plannings. and of course if you can add any details. We'll have a meeting next Tuesday and I am charged to present what I have suggested because all my colleagues did nothing so far. Would you suggest any grammar points, pronunciation, objectives so I take them into consideration . I thank you in advance.

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

salam Ryad

all what you have to do to is to follow the syllabus that document in french , , is the key of teaching english and don't try to make things simplified ,because many things must be known give teachers the maximum to guarantee the minimum

you have to add the grammar points , the pronunciation and now the NEw BEM guide it must be taught everyday and part of the teacher's job

Good Luck for your meeting

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam
here is test 2 for the MS2 level

good luck

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wyplb9gw4gopc06/MS2%20level%20test%202%20%28%201st%20Term%29%20201 3%202014.pdf

[" أبو عبود"]

Good evening Mr. Bounab. i sent you the plannings I prepared. would you suggest any modifications.

[NADJI 1]

Good morning every body . Mr.Ryad could you please send me the file plans you prepared . we are confused this year ,and untill now we didn't have any meeting .So,every teacher is working alone .I have 3 and 1ms classes .I'm following the new distribution session1 introducing oneself /session two introducing someone which was delt with in file 2 by changing cousin by friend in dialog p 43 then i introduced he she and in the next leson his her .What do you think?

[maramdou]

salam

for the file plans

here is file tow for the ms1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3tgea81zng0i3a8/ms1%20level%20file%202%20family%20%26%20friend%20a ccording%20to%20atf%20%26%20aef%20competencies%20a nd%20ppu%20%26%20pdp%20lesson%20plans%202.pdf



and for the ms2

here is file 2

http://www.4shared.com/office/hfxbbiby/ms2_level_file2_********_game_.html?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tsuy8md757wc2o8/ms2%20level%20file2%20********%20game%20%28%20ppu% 20%26%20pdp%29%20%20%281%29.pdf

sorry for the yearly plannings i just planned the one of the ms4 coz it contains too much changes


good luck
thanks a lot sir i really appreciate your help am new in the domain of teaching and am really learning from you so thanks again

[" أبو عبود"]

Good morning every body . Mr.Ryad could you please send me the file plans you prepared . we are confused this year ,and untill now we didn't have any meeting .So,every teacher is working alone .I have 3 and 1ms classes .I'm following the new distribution session1 introducing oneself /session two introducing someone which was delt with in file 2 by changing cousin by friend in dialog p 43 then i introduced he she and in the next leson his her .What do you think?

Well brother. Don't get confused as the ministry itself is confused and even the inspectors. they are asking for help since they do'don't understand really what to do.Our inspector charged me to have a meeting with colleagues and yesterday he asked me to have another one next Tuesday. well don't get confused since you haven't the 4AM. well follow the plannings sent by the ministry % SUGGESTIONS DE REPARTITIONS MS1/ MS2" they are a little bit complicated but follow tem until we finish our simplified plannings inch ALLAH

[NADJI 1]

Good evening mr.Ryad .thank you very much . indeed i'm using the new plannings ,i've downloaded them before the cd arrived to chool.taking into account the slimming ,but i just want to be more certain about my work.Today for the first time -this year- we had a meeting with the inspectress.things are a little bit clearer.she told us that there in no longer "file" but "aproject" as french. it is devided into learning sequences which are devided into sessions containing a number of lessons .She also told us to put the book aside because new books are being printed for the next year .
I'm very happy to find someone to talk with .thank you very much ,before i didn't know how to send messages .i'm not nadji but his mother .thanks again

[oum didou]

I'm sorry but I haven't understood what do you mean by putting the book aside ? We don't even use the scripts

[NADJI 1]

We don't use even the scripts Good evening every body .I'm sorry but I haven't understood what do you mean bputting thebookaside ? y]


She said that we should look for texts /dialogues /activiies from other sources because -as she said - next year w'll have new books .so that our we can use our preparation sheets then ,i think

[" أبو عبود"]

Thank you very much OUm Nadji. At the end there is someone who insures that the book will be changed next year. But the idea to imitate the French teachers is a little big tiring. I don't understand how can a teacher seek for thousands of activities and texts to do his job? That's none of our business, isn't it? Personnaly I'll just do two things for this year: avoid teaching the omitted lessons, prepare my exams according to the new method of exam building so my pupils won't be surprised. And next year incha ALLAH i'll carry out them when I have the new text book.

[" أبو عبود"]

I suggest each teacher put his exam here so we can change points of view and we can prepare many exma samples at the same time instead of waiting for a teacher to prepare them alone.

[NADJI 1]

I suggest each teacher put his exam here so we can change points of view and we can prepare many exma samples at the same time instead of waiting for a teacher to prepare them alone.

you're completley right , i 'll send some samples when i learn how .
cocerning the book:As we have it , we will use it . Theyshould send the new one /ones this year .so, i'm going to make my best by adapting l , searching to prepare pps well even those of 1 am,i think they are the most important and difficult to teach
I agree with u and nosw i'm going to watcha part of the match , i'm very anxious
Good night for evry body

[nina02]

hi my dearest colleagues
What are you planning for project n1 for the 4th level ?
I have some ideas and the best one of them is to talk about the new technology ,it's advantages and disadvantages
I think that learners are not able to make a blog because even me I can't do it .
Any idea (s )?

[" أبو عبود"]

Hi colleague.
I guess you are right. You can even ask them to prepare the homepage of a magazine which looks like a website . or to write articles about technologies as you said.

[nina02]

hi
Thanks for answering .
When I say technology , I mean the mobile , the net , robts ....ets .
Thanks because you are always present to share with us .
Please , if you have any idea share it
thanks .

[oum didou]

? Please tell me how to teach without using the book

[" أبو عبود"]

Use the book but bear in mind the omitted lessons and change some texts and exercises so they fit the new syllabus.

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

? Please tell me how to teach without using the book

Teach about the Book ( the program) and try to adapt the tasks according to your learners needs and interest

you are free to SARS too but you can't neglect the book , it's the only official didactic source

good Luck

[" أبو عبود"]

Hi colleagues

here is what i have suggested as an exam sample and I'm preparing other samples

[" أبو عبود"]

http://www.gulfup.com/G.png (http://www.gulfup.com/?yNPb92)

[ام ريما]

Hi every body Mr Bounab Mr Riyad how are you doing I need your help please could you tell me what are the 'm lostomittedlessons in the 1st and 2 nd levels please I


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[ام ريما]

Hi every body Mr Bounab Mr Riyad how are you doing I need your help please could you tell me what are the omittedI 'm lostlessons in the 1st and 2 nd levels please I


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[Mr.Samir Bounab]

salam

here is the test 2 for the MS4 level first term

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hkzo91yqsf4w93/%20MS%204%20test%202%20Environmental%20pollution-1.pdf


Good Luck

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Hi every body Mr Bounab Mr Riyad how are you doing I need your help please could you tell me what are the omittedI 'm lostlessons in the 1st and 2 nd levels please I


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Suppressions par niveau sur la base de l’allègement mis en application depuis Septembre
2008
1AM
Semaine Compétences /
objectifs
d’apprentissage
Ressources/ contenus
linguistiques
observations
21 Talking about present activi- ties/ progressive actions The present continuous tense
Ne correspond pas à l’objectif
communicatif ciblé ( surcharge
de notions et fonctions)

But it was replaced by describing animals
29 Talking about rights and duties The imperative Ne correspond pas à l’objectif communicatif ciblé ( surcharge
de notions et fonctions)

2AM
Semaine Compétences /
objectifs
d’apprentissage
Ressources/ contenus
linguistiques
observations
17 Talking about discoveries The passive voice with past simple tense Keep the passive voice with de-
scribing a process / how infu-
sions are prepared
26 /27 Enquiring about someone’s ca- reer The present perfect tense Ne correspond pas à l’objectif
communicatif ciblé ( surcharge
de notions et fonctions)


good luck

[NADJI 1]

Good morning dear colleagues ,i have a question concerning 3 ms file 2.This year ,following the new plnning ,i started with plannig a visit -using going to and not the future simple as we have in the planning - and next week i 'll present session2 "making future arrangements " shall i teach making offers,asking for permition and making requests ?They aren't mentioned in the planning .

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Good morning dear colleagues ,i have a question concerning 3 ms file 2.This year ,following the new plnning ,i started with plannig a visit -using going to and not the future simple as we have in the planning - and next week i 'll present session2 "making future arrangements " shall i teach making offers,asking for permition and making requests ?They aren't mentioned in the planning .

salam

please follow this table ( it's in the MS3 program )

3AM
Semaine Compétences /
objectifs
d’apprentissage
Ressources/ contenus
linguistiques
observations

7 Defining /explaining*

Mak ing/accepting /declining invita- tions*
The relative clauses /
who / which
Would you
*Match it with week 5 / describ-
ing people
*to match with week six ( social
********)

11 Making sugges-
tions
Do you mind? Prepositions??? DELETED
Niveau de langue trop formel


14 Prediciting The future simple ( review) DELETED
À considérer comme rappel
/inadéquation avec l’objectif
communicatif ciblé)

19
Describing actions that happened in the past and affect the DELETED ( taught in MS4 level 3rd term)
The present perfect per-
fect with either since / for
Or with the adverbs of
time : already / yet
Tendance à occulter l’objectif de
communication ciblé et focalisa-
tion sur l’enseignement tradi-
tionnel d




Follow this and plan your work

Good Luck

[" أبو عبود"]

yes they are in the syllabus Mrs. Oum Nadji..
I don't have the 3MS. I have 4 nd 2 ms. but I'll tyr to put everythinh in a table so things will be clearer. but it is my % Ijtihad according to what i have understood from the copies we got recently.

[" أبو عبود"]

A question to Mr. Bounab.
I have spoken with two coleagues teachers of French. They teach by project but the teach things this way:
- oral
- speaking-
reading-
writing
- grammar
- vocabulary
- orthography
but we are supposed not to teach grammar or vocabulary in the English syllabus; are we?

[NADJI 1]

salam

please follow this table ( it's in the MS3 program )

3AM
Semaine Compétences /
objectifs
d’apprentissage
Ressources/ contenus
linguistiques
observations

7 Defining /explaining*

Mak ing/accepting /declining invita- tions*
The relative clauses /
who / which
Would you
*Match it with week 5 / describ-
ing people
*to match with week six ( social
********)

11 Making sugges-
tions
Do you mind? Prepositions??? DELETED
Niveau de langue trop formel


14 Prediciting The future simple ( review) DELETED
À considérer comme rappel
/inadéquation avec l’objectif
communicatif ciblé)

19
Describing actions that happened in the past and affect the DELETED ( taught in MS4 level 3rd term)
The present perfect per-
fect with either since / for
Or with the adverbs of
time : already / yet
Tendance à occulter l’objectif de
communication ciblé et focalisa-
tion sur l’enseignement tradi-
tionnel d




Follow this and plan your work

Good Luck

Thank you very much mr.bounab and mr ryad.Ihave already printed the table of ommited lessons and i am using it regularly when preparing lessons .But i just have a doubt about these ******** functions because i didn't found them neither in the planning and nor in the table of deleted lessons

[" أبو عبود"]

If you follow the papers in french you can se what is omiited and what is not. i do'nt know if you have the papers i'm talking about
or not. well here is what I am talking about.
http://www.gulfup.com/G.png (http://www.gulfup.com/?EDOCj9)
from page 5 to 19.

[nina02]

hi colleagues
I want to ask about the 4th year learning objectives .It's about "expressing obligation and prohibition "
We used to do this lesson in file 2 , research and report , making a rule charter to ensure the protection of the wild animals.
But according to the new slimming down , no animals in way of extinction ,
I propose to talk about the school regulations using "must , have to , mustn't "
What do you think ? If you have another idea inform me please
thanks

[" أبو عبود"]

I noticed this problem a two days ago. Thanks god I had some old pictures about traffic signs. They are quite useful..Just draw them, stick them on tye board and give examples about an obligation and another about prohibition. Don't forget to focus on the synonyms:
prohibit= ban = prevent
then their opposites
allow= permit
so they can use them or at least check them and understand in which context are used.
the is another problem, most pupils translate into Arabic and in case of " mustn't" they translate it as (لا يجب)
which is not correct. The correct meaning to express prohibition in Arabic is (يجب ان لا تفعل)

[nina02]

hi
thanks so much .So I thought that we must put these modals in a context (( a text about school regulations for example )
Learners have already seen this lesson ( obligation , prohibition and absence of obligation ) in the 3rd year .
thanks again

[" أبو عبود"]

You are welcome.
BTW thaings are so bad from last night between two tribes.i guess there won't be a meeting this week on Tuesday.

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

hi colleagues
I want to ask about the 4th year learning objectives .It's about "expressing obligation and prohibition "
We used to do this lesson in file 2 , research and report , making a rule charter to ensure the protection of the wild animals.
But according to the new slimming down , no animals in way of extinction ,
I propose to talk about the school regulations using "must , have to , mustn't "
What do you think ? If you have another idea inform me please
thanks

personally I will omit " might " possibility and teach the file as it is

[nina02]

Thanks Mr. Bounab for your idea .

[nina02]

hi
Thanks Mr. Bounab .Another question , if it's the case , in which lesson or topic will you present the lesson of expressing obligation and prohibition ?

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

hi
Thanks Mr. Bounab .Another question , if it's the case , in which lesson or topic will you present the lesson of expressing obligation and prohibition ?


-Read & Consider (page46- page 51):

- Express obligation / prohibition

good luck

[maramdou]

salam,Ineed your help
what s new n the method of making
exams

[nina02]

hi
In the pages u listed above , there is expressing possibility using may , can .
Expressing obligation is on page53 , isn't it ?
It's not a problem , I'll solve it , But I prefer to ask because I want to share the work with you all , as I've always said , I want all of us (teachers of English ) work in the same way since we have a common final exam BEM .
And I really want to hear from official sources that they are going to change the books since there are changes in the learning objective and the syllabus .
thanks .

[nina02]

good morning my dearest colleagues

Where are you ? Did we stop teaching ? No questions , no news ? Anything wrong has happened with us teachers of English
?
I become very happy when I join this forum and check what's happening but no news for four days !!!I hope we'll return to the field as active as we used to be
Have a nice weekend

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

good morning my dearest colleagues

Where are you ? Did we stop teaching ? No questions , no news ? Anything wrong has happened with us teachers of English
?
I become very happy when I join this forum and check what's happening but no news for four days !!!I hope we'll return to the field as active as we used to be
Have a nice weekend

Salam Nina

may Allah bless you

just carry on and share your works and ideas

don't blame the teachers , nothing has been done to help them

they are given a syllabus , hard to understand , like a puzzle game and the big problem is that the master piece misses each time

Take care

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

salam,Ineed your help
what s new n the method of making
exams

Salam My friend

there is no new method , in this guide there are less tasks regarding to the one of october 2007

and what is new is the way we mark the written expression is now official , the one it was used in the last BEM June 2013 , the last work doen by the Americans here in Algeria in June 2008

It must be applied in class to make the learners believe that they can score at this task

and the guide contains for the first time how to plan tests and exams , this will help teacher plan their tests and exams in conformity with the BEM Exam

This guide must be the theme of training sessions in order to make the teachers used to it

Good Luck

[nina02]

hi
thanks for answering . I would be very happy if I had things to share to help the others .The only thing I have is the questions I ask whenever I face a problem .
We are still teaching using the files .But I 've noticed that some colleagues are teaching with projects .
How about you colleagues ?Do you find it easy to work with projects ? How about the sequences ?

[" أبو عبود"]

I'm back colleagues.
We have been in a crisis. Thanks Allah it has stopped without any human casulaties. But we haven't been to school for a week and the exams are postponed.

[nina02]

hi
welcome back
Although I haven't understood what was happening .But happy to hear that nothing wrong happened with you all.
I hope everything will be alright soon .

[" أبو عبود"]

read these article and you wll understand what happened
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu-WNaGsgJg
http://www.elkhabar.com/ar/watan/369471.html

[" أبو عبود"]

read these article and you wll understand what happened
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu-WNaGsgJg
http://www.elkhabar.com/ar/watan/369471.html

[nina02]

Hi
Thanks for the information .
I've already read these news but I didn't know that you were talking about the same problems .
I hope everything will be alright very soon.
Thanks again and welcome because Mr. bounab and you , are able to solve many teaching problems and help us
thanks again .

[" أبو عبود"]

In fact there are 5 teachers in the forum.

[SKYALGERIA]

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

[" أبو عبود"]

وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

[" أبو عبود"]

I realised in the book a fault concerning athe use of " so" and " nither". both are used to show agreement. so is used to agree with a positive statement and neither to agree with a negative statement. but in the book they said on page 55 it is used to show disagreement.
in fact there is no agreement at all in both cases.
I have got car-
So have I-
where is the agreement? there is a responce to a statement where the speaker expresses that he or she is identical in the same action or verb or situation .

[" أبو عبود"]

I realised in the book a fault concerning athe use of " so" and " nither". both are used to show agreement. so is used to agree with a positive statement and neither to agree with a negative statement. but in the book they said on page 55 it is used to show disagreement.
in fact there is no agreement at all in both cases.
I have got car-
So have I-
where is the agreement? there is a responce to a statement where the speaker expresses that he or she is identical in the same action or verb or situation .

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam

Here is the Exams of the first Term

2013 -2014


The MS4 level:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e1qj6ck0440t50k/MS4%20level%20%20Exam1%20%28%202013%20-2014%29%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20% 20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 %20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%2 0%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Exam%20I%20%2 0%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20% 20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 %20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Date.pdf


The MS2 level :


https://www.dropbox.com/s/befnsqz4v1fnbth/MS2%20level%20Exam%202%202013%20-2014%20.pdf



Any remarks or comments are welcome

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam

Here is the Exams of the first Term

2013 -2014


The MS4 level:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e1qj6ck0440t50k/MS4%20level%20%20Exam1%20%28%202013%20-2014%29%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20% 20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 %20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%2 0%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Exam%20I%20%2 0%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20% 20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 %20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Date.pdf


The MS2 level :


https://www.dropbox.com/s/befnsqz4v1fnbth/MS2%20level%20Exam%202%202013%20-2014%20.pdf



Any remarks or comments are welcome

[nina02]

hi
Thanks for the subjects .
No comments .Thanks for your help .

[" أبو عبود"]

Salam alaykom my colleagues. I'll be away for a week. We'll have a meeting with some English teachers from England. The meeting will take place in Ghardaia with the participation of 25 inspectors and 25 "formateurs " teachers of English. I'll be the representative of my wilaya. If you have any inquiry or question i can convey.

[nina02]

good luck for the meeting . I hope we'll hear positive news concerning teaching English in Algeria .
I don't know what the objective(s) of the meeting is .but I hope it will be fruitful for us all .
thanks .

[nina02]

Hi
I want to ask you my dearest colleagues .Why do we do two tests in a term ? since English is considered as a secondary subject (2 hours for the 2nd and 1 st year and 3 hours for the 3rd and 4th year ) with the coefission 1 for the 1st , 2 nd and 3rd year and 2 for the 4th year . .I am not against two tests in a term but I am against to work as if we are teaching Maths , Arabic or French which have more timing nd high coeffision .
When we do a test for the 1st or the 2 nd year , we 'll use all the hours of a week : the first hour is for doing a test and the last one is for correcting it .
Don't you find it wrong ?

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam alaykom my colleagues. I'll be away for a week. We'll have a meeting with some English teachers from England. The meeting will take place in Ghardaia with the participation of 25 inspectors and 25 "formateurs " teachers of English. I'll be the representative of my wilaya. If you have any inquiry or question i can convey.

salam

normally 25 inspectors and 50 teacher coz each inspector was asked to choose two teachers to be trianed as teeacher trianer

try to gather the miximum of information and get benefit from native

Good Luck

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

good luck for the meeting . I hope we'll hear positive news concerning teaching English in Algeria .
I don't know what the objective(s) of the meeting is .but I hope it will be fruitful for us all .
thanks .

hi
the aim is to train teachers to help inspectors in meetings and seminars and may be they will have also some of the inspectors duties too like triaining the new teachers and a great number of teachers will benefit from this training too the British will train them

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

I realised in the book a fault concerning athe use of " so" and " nither". both are used to show agreement. so is used to agree with a positive statement and neither to agree with a negative statement. but in the book they said on page 55 it is used to show disagreement.
in fact there is no agreement at all in both cases.
I have got car-
So have I-
where is the agreement? there is a responce to a statement where the speaker expresses that he or she is identical in the same action or verb or situation .

hi

yes you are right both are expressing agreemement ( positive and negative ways)

don't follow the book

Good Luck

[" أبو عبود"]

Thanks Allah you are back Mr. Samir. That was a long time. I hope you are ok

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam Mr Ryadh

I am ok thanks

May Allah bless you

I read your conversations with the colleagues I did not want to intervene I wished many can take part

[" أبو عبود"]

Many? we are three and none is interested. I guess they are all merchants as the teachers of the town where I live.

[" أبو عبود"]

Where are you colleagues?

[nina02]

hi
welcome .
?Where are we
.When Mr. Bounab and you are absent , none is present by here .
In reality , I had no questions or ambiguities this week that's why I had nothing to say .I am waiting for the news from your sides .
thanks

[" أبو عبود"]

Hi
I have been in the meeting for a week.I'll put some of what we did but it has nothing to do with the teaching methods in Algeria. I guess they are fictious activities for our syllabus

[" أبو عبود"]

Here are some of what we did during the meeting
http://www.gulfup.com/?uyvbyN

[" أبو عبود"]

http://www.gulfup.com/?XoXOos
http://www.gulfup.com/?BUcacZ
http://www.gulfup.com/?oByGUV

[" أبو عبود"]

where are you colleagues?

[nina02]

Hi
we are still here waiting for any news .Personally , I am working according to the new devision .I am trying to take what I need from the books if not I adapt according to the needs .
Still have problems with the 1st and 2nd year levels since the numbers of the hours isn't enough to work well .
And honestly and frankly , I am eager to hear that they are really changing the books according to the new changes because some learners don't really undersatand how to use the books they have bought .

[" أبو عبود"]

hi
I guess they will do even the inspectors I met didn't say that. but you have to prepare your texts and activities yourself. I have a file about tutorials presented by our inspector. i forgot it . I'm putting it here so you can benefit from it.
http://www.gulfup.com/?0Bj0Xg

[fidaa 2]

i recently heard from an inspector from algiers that we'll have new books by the next school year. they were elaborated with the collaboration of the british. wait and see

[nina02]

Hi again
Thanks so much Mr Riyad for the information about tutorial sessions.
And I hope the information I've just read about the new books will be true

[NADJI 1]

good morning ,
i 'm writing this message and i dont know if i can send it
for about two weeks ,i'm only reading yours .imy messages don't "pass "i don(t know why

[NADJI 1]

thanks to God,at last .i told you about a month ago about the new books which we ' ll have next year .i heard this in a meeting from the inspcress,she said they are being printed .a colleague of mine said that an inspector in onother region has a draft of one of these books on his laptop

[NADJI 1]

now , i return to the problem i have with this forum
i wrote many messages ,but when i couln't send them as i told you ,perhaps it has a link with internet .in the evening ,too slow
each time ,i received a letter ,message (you can't create a link untill you have 30 contributuions
even i didn't want to create a link
can someone help me please
i want to be always present asking qqs or exchanging ideas with you
and i don't know if i will be able to send other messages any time i want

[NADJI 1]

it's me again
thank you very much mr ryad for the information you provided us with . there was another meeting for the inspectors and teachers trainers of our region in setif yeasterday ,i don't know they will do the same work as yours or if it will last for a week
i 'll s give news as soon as i get them eventhough i don't know how to put documents

[NADJI 1]

i'm writing many messages so that you won't get borred
cocerning us,ordinary teachers ,we had a meeting yeasterday
the work we did was deviding the projects learning sequences into sessions and defining the objective of each esession
later on, we'll devide eacjh session into lessons
in our region ,we have been working with sessions fsince 2010 so we don't have a big probem now
so, the project is devided into 3 learning sequences .each sequence into sessions (learning objective in the new yrearly devision ) .sessions will be devided into lessons .how many? according to you ,your pps and of course the time we have to end the syllabus

[NADJI 1]

i think that colleagues are completely right about the the problem we have with 1st and 2nd ms
i don't now if we can finish the progrm
i have 3mas classes ,now problem ,i'm reaching the end of project one without problems ,but for 1ms impossible
did those 'deciders ' know that it's the first yeas and that we have pre-file
with 2 hours we could difficulty start presenting the syllabus with the different 'holidays ' we hed
personally ,i think that 1 ms is extremly impoortant ,so,we must go slowly with those 'very young pps

[nina02]

hi
Thanks Mrs. OumNadji for reassuring me about the new books .
Now concerning the achievement of the programme of the 1st year , I don't think we 'll be able to finish it .I have always believed that the 1 st year learners should study only the simple present to master it very well (describig dairy activities , adverbs of frequency ) and in the 2nd year they study the past simple . The future simple with "will" should be left and taught in the 3rd year .And of course every year we do revision of all the tenses they have already studied
I hope you'll give me your opinion about my idea .

[NADJI 1]

we all have good ideas ,as i think,for our pps because we are the ones who know them.but there are things we are obliged to do or follow

[" أبو عبود"]

Well there is nothing more to do with teaching. The only piece of advice I can give you do whatever you believe it is necessary for your pupils. Teach them grammar; vocabulary, anything you think it is helpful for them to improve their ******** especially at the 1AM and 2Am. concerning the book; it will be changed for sure but until that time we have to manage to find what is adequate for your learners. Would you tell me whose teacher has got the draft so we can have a sample.
I'm so pleased there is someone to talk to in this forum. I've been talking to myself.
Concerning your problem with the forum it is a question of low flow of the internet. I have the same problem and sometimes I wait for an hour to send a message.

[قلم مكسور]

now , i return to the problem i have with this forum
i wrote many messages ,but when i couln't send them as i told you ,perhaps it has a link with internet .in the evening ,too slow
each time ,i received a letter ,message (you can't create a link untill you have 30 contributuions
even i didn't want to create a link
can someone help me please
i want to be always present asking qqs or exchanging ideas with you
and i don't know if i will be able to send other messages any time i want

hello sir

That's right - in this forum-you need to post more than 30 contributions to create links

Welcome colleague

[قلم مكسور]

thanks to God,at last .i told you about a month ago about the new books which we ' ll have next year .i heard this in a meeting from the inspcress,she said they are being printed .a colleague of mine said that an inspector in onother region has a draft of one of these books on his laptop




Could you get this draft for us , please


concerning your question about how to add documents it is easy there 're topics explaining this



or using this icon

إرفاق الملفات
إمتدادات وأنواع الملفات المسموح بها: bmp doc gif jpe jpeg jpg png psd rar txt zip

[nina02]

Hi my dearest colleagues .
I hope u very nice holidays . I hope we'll relax enough to get ready for the 2nd term .

[قلم مكسور]

Hi my dearest colleagues
I hope u very nice holidays . I hope we'll relax enough to get ready for the 2nd term .



hi sis and colleague


I wish you the same



and to all teachers and learners , too.

[NADJI 1]

good evening dear colleagues
holidays ,just on time ,we are very tired .concerning sending documents ,i'll try to learn how ,now i have enough time . at least ,ill be able to send exams and tests
for the new books , i have no idea about their ******* .a teacher in a meeting said that an inspector ,i don't know xhere has a draft .i don't know even if if is correct ,i'll send news as soon as i get them ,sure

[قلم مكسور]

Thank you sir

[NADJI 1]

there is another problem we should mention here .some colleagues ,even in the same school never share ideas or documents .if they have something ,they keep it for themselves .to be the best ,i think
Others follow inspectors as their shadow as we say in arabis , the worst is that they have influence on them

[NADJI 1]

the worst of all is inspectors themselves .of course not all of them , when visiting teachers ,women , they expect making friedship or i don't know what kind of relashioship with them .So,if a woman ,even married as for my case ,do not speak with them for long times , don't lough or be veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy outgoing ,she is not good teacher

[NADJI 1]

on the other hand , if a woman is very cheerful, ...........?With them ,she will be the best and have lot of apportunities
it's really disappointing .
for me ,the most important person whose judjment i want are my pps
what do u think

[NADJI 1]

i d like teachers of 3ms to give ideas about the lessons of session 1 in project 2
personally ,i'll take some rest ,do some house choresand start studying the project and make a project plan (of lessonand their obijectives when i achieve something i'll tell you )

[NADJI 1]

now, good night for all of you .happy holidays ,enjoy your time

[oum didou]

Happy holidays.I think,you are right,. First , let's relax and then we are going to think about Project 2

[fidaa 2]

Excuse me, NADJI1, Aren't you exaggerating when talking about the behaviour of the teachers and the inspectors? Having 27 years of teaching,I can tell you that some INSPECTORS and not all of them of course ARE following the teachers as their shadows (to reproduce your words), just because they are in need of their experience and not more. Add to this, if any inspector tries to make a relation of any type with any teacher, it comes from the teacher her(him) self for their profit.
Wish you great holidays and a successful job

[NADJI 1]

i didn't mean teachers who follow inspectors for their instructios or new information ,but those who are always in contact with them sending presents, and behaving as spies for them of course for their own benifit.
of course this depends on teachers themselves ,we are all working in education .but really some inspectors don't write good reports after a visit and also don't give them good marks because they are not their friends
on the other hand as i have seen with my own eyes,an inspector visited a teacher of his" friends" but she didn't do well ,so he told her that he ' ll return 3days later so she prepared herself well and the ispector presented her as a perfect ,extraordinary teacher
this is what i mean

[NADJI 1]

we,teachers,or inspectors must be objective ,tell the truth and accept it.

[NADJI 1]

indeed fidaa ,ididnt say inspectors who follow teachers ,but teachers who are always following inspectors as their........ "

[" أبو عبود"]

You are right Mrs Oum nadji. I have been teaching for 23 years so far and I was visited just twice in 2002 and in 2007. My last mark was 14 and I have the 11 th grade. On the other hand most "male" inspectors visit "female" teachers more than male teachers and they do visit the beautiful one and not the ugly ones.. But not all of them of course. But don't worry they can do nothing if you refuse to speak with them or you don't like to keep in touch with them.
I finish wit this real joke that happened last year in our school. A married lady who teaches History and Geography at our school had a pupil who suffers from a psychological problem.. he asked her to add him some marks and pray for her telling her " Inchallah you will be very beautiful" hhhhhhhhhhhhhh he realized she wasn't beautiful

[NADJI 1]

good morning!

[" أبو عبود"]

good morning colleagues

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam

Here what happened in the Training of British Council , Teachers trainers & Inspectors

In December 2013


Day 1 :
http://www.4shared.com/zip/0t9BxgGM/Teaching_spoken_interaction_-_.html?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kia9m0im24z6uob/Teaching%20spoken%20interaction%20-%20Day%20One.zip
Day 2:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tnvv4y4gp73d2jn/Teacher%20Training%20Activities%20-%20Day%20Two.zip
http://www.4shared.com/zip/A6VvzIoN/Teacher_Training_Activities_-_.html?

Day 3 :l
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mraerdssk27lg79/Teaching%20writing%20-%20Day%20Three.zip
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mraerdssk27lg79/Teaching%20writing%20-%20Day%20Three.zip

Day 4:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1iyrexexegc2ype/Day%204%20%20%20Assessment%20For%20Learning%20BC%2 0council%20%20Training%20.zip
http://www.4shared.com/get/iSEFoCue/Assessment_for_Learning_-_Day_.html


Day 5:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6f7n9gpcmn9wlcu/Day%205%20Differentiation%20%20%20BC%20training%20 .zip
http://www.4shared.com/zip/VflrXVa9/Differentiation_-_Day_Five.html?


Good Luck

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam

Here what happened in the Training of British Council , Teachers trainers & Inspectors

In December 2013


Day 1 :
http://www.4shared.com/zip/0t9BxgGM/Teaching_spoken_interaction_-_.html?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kia9m0im24z6uob/Teaching%20spoken%20interaction%20-%20Day%20One.zip
Day 2:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tnvv4y4gp73d2jn/Teacher%20Training%20Activities%20-%20Day%20Two.zip
http://www.4shared.com/zip/A6VvzIoN/Teacher_Training_Activities_-_.html?

Day 3 :l
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mraerdssk27lg79/Teaching%20writing%20-%20Day%20Three.zip
http://www.4shared.com/zip/ROXnPAmR/Teaching_writing_-_Day_Three.html?


Day 4:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1iyrexexegc2ype/Day%204%20%20%20Assessment%20For%20Learning%20BC%2 0council%20%20Training%20.zip
http://www.4shared.com/get/iSEFoCue/Assessment_for_Learning_-_Day_.html


Day 5:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6f7n9gpcmn9wlcu/Day%205%20Differentiation%20%20%20BC%20training%20 .zip
http://www.4shared.com/zip/VflrXVa9/Differentiation_-_Day_Five.html?


Good Luck

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

teacher's guide to learning styles VAK learners


https://www.dropbox.com/s/910g6x8q1xd084t/%20Teacher%27s%20Guide%20to%20Learning%20Styles%20-VAK_for_teachers.pdf


Good luck

[NADJI 1]

good evening dear colleagues ,and thank you very much mr,bounab for provoding us with these information.
Really ,thank you isn't enough for your contributions
God bless you

[aya collo]

I could not download these links Itried with the ones on the ******** but it is the same problem

[nina02]

hi
Thanks so much Mr. Bounab for the news you sent us .It's so kind of you to help the others and inform us of all what's happening concerning teaching English .
thanks again .

[kimou1990]

بارك الله فيك اخي

[" أبو عبود"]

Welcome back Mr. Bounab. i hope next meeting I'll have the opportunity to meet you.
Well we had a meeting in ghardaia but believe me most presented ways were far from our circumstances.

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

inchaa allah my friend

I will be very happy to meet you

All the honor is mine

[" أبو عبود"]

Mr. Bounab what do you think if we suggest a course book that may help our colleagues and pupils regardless the book that may be provided by the ministery?

[maramdou]

SALAM
Thanks so much Mr. Bounab for the news you sent us
I really need your help concerning the work with projects cause Idid not get this point and am still working wth Files
.

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

SALAM
Thanks so much Mr. Bounab for the news you sent us
I really need your help concerning the work with projects cause Idid not get this point and am still working wth Files
.

Salam My Friend


Tha idea to work with Porject and not Files was suggested in the last meeting of the inspectors ( September 2013 in Blida)

They were asked to ask the teachers to no more work with Files but with Porjects and instead of writing Sequence One we wrtie Lesson 1 and so on , this is the way the teachers of French work for them
For Example : Projet 1 : Narratif ( all the 3 sequences of the projet are narratif , the tasks are narrtif the reading is narratif and of course the situation of Integration which takes them a week is about narratif ) Their Books serve this type of plan

Now let's see our books open any page of any level you will find not less than Two learning objectives , if we use this type of work we hve to FORGET about the MANUALS so teacher will just refer to the learning objectives of the syllabus and plan everything ( each teacher will make a book for himself of herself)

Just ask your colleagues of French and they will explain you .

Good Luck

[" أبو عبود"]

I have already talked to my Colleagues of French they do work with projects but they teach grammar and vocabulary which iis not the case for us.

[NADJI 1]

Good evening .
Mr.Bounab ,concerning the sequense ,.in my region ,we haven't used this term since 2010.we replaced it with session ,of course as our inspector told us .
As for projects , we use sequence now . as we were told in a meeting
The project is devided into 3 sequences , each sequense into sessions - the number depends on the ******* .
the session is devided into lessons - the number depends on the different ******** items and pps level.
So, as i understood from our inspectress we 'll write project 2 /sequence 1 /session 1/ Lesson1
Of course project is written only once -in the first lesson

[NADJI 1]

at the end of each sequense , there is a week of integration
During this week, pps will do different kinds of activities , seen in the sequece
this looks like what we used to call "check" doesn't it?
WE ALL NOTICED THAT EVEN INSPECTORS AREN4T SURE OF WHAT THEY SAY
so , we try to do our best ,but we must follow the documents we have ,so that we'll present the same lessons every where .Although our form of work can be different , the ******* is the same
The term sequense is clear in the slimming /prog

[NADJI 1]

How about you ?How dod you devide the projects ?
Do you have the same devision? If noy would you please tell us about it?

personally, i couldn't use these new terms with my pps because our meeting was too late but after the holidays , i certainly will

[NADJI 1]

My biggest problem is with 1 ms classes .Idon't know if i will be able to finish the program
we haven't even finished project 1
Is there any one who cares ,with 2 hours a week,we'll never reach project 3 with 2 tests each term =2 weeks
what shall we do ?

[nassro nouar]

السلام عليكم



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ممكن تكونو لنا أساتدة في قروب في الفيس بوك للسنة الثانية ثانوي

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بالنظر لخبرتكم الواسعة بحكم انكم اساتدة شباب وواعدين

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في لقروب كاملة عندنا استادة واحدة في مادة العلوم الطبيعية ممكن اساتدة و جزاكم الله خيرا

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[samsouma88]

My biggest problem is with 1 ms classes .Idon't know if i will be able to finish the program
we haven't even finished project 1
Is there any one who cares ,with 2 hours a week,we'll never reach project 3 with 2 tests each term =2 weeks
what shall we do ?
i agree with u Mr NADJI it seems impossible to finish the program with 2 hours a week (listen and speak practise and produce ) some times i combine listen and speak with practise in one session but sometimes i can't SO PLEASE TEACHERS HAVE YOU AN ANSWER TO THIS ISSUE!

[" أبو عبود"]

Good evening colleagues.
You can easily finish the programme for all the levels just follow the handout. you should adapt the lessons for each project. Here what I think we must do. project one. count how many hours do you have in the first term then set your lessons according to the number of hours you have. do'nt forget the week for assessment and the week for diagnostic for the three levels and not the 1ms.

[" أبو عبود"]

Good evening colleagues.
You can easily finish the programme for all the levels just follow the handout. you should adapt the lessons for each project. Here what I think we must do. project one. count how many hours do you have in the first term then set your lessons according to the number of hours you have. do'nt forget the week for assessment and the week for diagnostic for the three levels and not the 1ms.

[maramdou]

at the end of each sequense , there is a week of integration
During this week, pps will do different kinds of activities , seen in the sequece
this looks like what we used to call "check" doesn't it?
WE ALL NOTICED THAT EVEN INSPECTORS AREN4T SURE OF WHAT THEY SAY
so , we try to do our best ,but we must follow the documents we have ,so that we'll present the same lessons every where .Although our form of work can be different , the ******* is the same
The term sequense is clear in the slimming /prog
It sounds boring but could you specify about which documents are you talking cause am really confused:sdf:

[aya collo]

Hi MR Ryad this is exactly what Idid for project2 during these holidays

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Good evening .
Mr.Bounab ,concerning the sequense ,.in my region ,we haven't used this term since 2010.we replaced it with session ,of course as our inspector told us .
As for projects , we use sequence now . as we were told in a meeting
The project is devided into 3 sequences , each sequense into sessions - the number depends on the ******* .
the session is devided into lessons - the number depends on the different ******** items and pps level.
So, as i understood from our inspectress we 'll write project 2 /sequence 1 /session 1/ Lesson1
Of course project is written only once -in the first lesson


Salam my Friend
The problem is not in wrtiting Porject 1 sequenece...........

Our problem is in th Learning Objectives the teachers of French have ONE Learning Objective FROM the Beginning of the Porject till the end all SERVE the SAME learning objective

Which is not our CASE in one week we have more than ONE learning objectives it's real mixture and THoSE DECIDERS , they asked the inspectors to work with project and forget about file , the problem is not
there the problem is in our SYLLABUS , it's like a puzzle , what is planned in the syllabus is not
in the yealry planning
, what has been slimmed down is neither in the syllbus nor in the yearly planning and what the manuals contain has no relation with the syllabus , the yearly planning and the slimming and the most important the BEM exam which is edited from the BEM GUIE which has no relation with all what Ilisted above

If teachers work with the idea of project this mean they have to FORGET about the SCHOOL MANUAL , so each teacher will have to edit HIs or HEr Book

What I am doing personally I took into account the table that shows what lessons are omitted and combined and I am working as I used to do , this is what we agreeed to do here in my wilaya

May Allah be with Us Teachers Of English , the teachers of French have everything planned they only apply and for us they ask us to build a puzzle where the master piece is always unfound

Happy NEw YEar 2014

[aya collo]

MR Bounab I go along with what u have just said

[aya collo]

As far as Iam concerned I am preparing a booklet which fitsthe learning objectives of project2

[nina02]

hi my dearest colleagues .
Happy new year for you all .May God give all of us health , wealth and peace of mind

[nina02]

hi my dearest colleagues .
Happy new year for you all .May God give all of us health , wealth and peace of mind

[NADJI 1]

hello,dear teachers ,
happy new year for you, nina and for all our colleagues

[NADJI 1]

i want to ask about 3ms project 2 sesion 1"talk about means of transport"
what will you preent ?HOW ABOUT "draw a road map with transport symbols ' any ideas ,please ?

[" أبو عبود"]

Hi colleagues
concerning your questio Mrs. Oum Nadji , iI guess you have to mention all kinds of mans of transport and anything related to them such as : bus station; railway; wagon, airport; luggage, travel, suitcase, briefcase, sat ; port;
and then you have to maje pupils compare between them which they prefer and why.

[NADJI 1]

Thank you very much for your answer mr,ryad
the probem is that i have already done that when i presented that item in travelling by plane -making future arrangements /planning a visit as a warm up
Shall i repeat it again ?i don't like doing so.This why i'm confused .

[aya collo]

Iadvise u to present this lesson again but in a different way as a reinforcement

[maramdou]

Hi colleagues
I need the new yearly planning of ms1 and ms2

[maramdou]

Hi colleagues
I need the new yearly planning for ms1and ms2 PLS

[maramdou]

Hi colleagues
I need the new yearly planning for MS1and MS2

[" أبو عبود"]

you needn't to reteach the lesson. If you are talking about the project, ask them to write short paragraphs about means of transport. here is the idea. draw all the means of transport you know. write a short paragraph next to each drawing mentioning the history of that means of transport.
Nowadays there are many ways to travel. how many means oif transport do ypu know? what are they? which one do you prefer,
write a paragraph of 8 to 10 lines about the topic.
if you feel you have already done this topic and don't want to repeat it, just change it and make them talk about television, computer, industry,
it is not always ,necessary to carry out all the syllabus point by point.

[NADJI 1]

Thank you very much MrRyad
i'll present the project withour repeating the same expressions

[" أبو عبود"]

you are welcome.

[nina02]

Hi my dearest colleagues .
Good return to school and good luck for the second term .May God help us all to do our work in a good and correct way .
Good luck .

[" أبو عبود"]

thanks so much. I have and idea in fact many ideas but i don't have time to realise all of them. the exercise book. what do you think if we teachers agree to a standard exercise book for each level. so the teacher will be able to know what to write for each lesson and even if the pupil doesn't attend for any reason he can download the lessons from the net. we can even suggest more than one exercise book. i mean a sample exercise book.I need your suggestions..

[nina02]

hi
your idea is so smart but I think to realise it we have to master the new changes in the programme and try to addapt what's in the book , the yearly plannings , the learning objectives and the exit profile of each level .

[nina02]

hi again
A question about the programme of the 2nd year level .Project one which contains file one and file two , in the 11th week , learning objectives , there is "GIVE ADVICE" using the modal "should" . I don't really know where to put this lesson which is in "file 3" in the learners books .
I don't understant how can we work correctly and in the same way !!! Which support shall we use in such lessons ?
In the old programme , "give advice " is with the topic of "health "file 3.How can we present it with expressing ability ?
Personally , am not going to present it now . I'll let it as usual , file 3 .
What do you think ?
Any idea , please ?
thanks .

[" أبو عبود"]

yes i'm talking about the new book and bearing in mind all changes and we can modify it at any time

[" أبو عبود"]

Well. I guess you have to present " expressing ability" in one week and " give advice " in another week. so keep on teaching by weeks this year until we have a new book.i mean don't worry about where to present it. feel free to present each objective in one regardless the old files.

[أبوعبد الباسط]

Thanks a lot
It is a great , wonderful work

[NADJI 1]

Good morning dear colleagues
MrRyad , your idea of an exercisebook is really great You mean a book like that of french in the primary school don't you? IT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL ?but it is difficut to realize now I think we'll heve more possibilities next year when we'll have the new books WELL BE ABLE TO PREPARE AN EXERCISEBOOK 'which suits the book' althought we have the syllabus and the objectives now
Let's gather our ideas and try to realize them as soon as possible

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam my friend


Happy New Year and Good Starting again

I would like to talk about this Idea of PROJECT :

Till Now there is NO OFFICIAL document that asks the teacher to work with this Idea of PROJECT ( Like the teachers of French do)

What is mean by Project WORK is the final prodcution of the file , what we do during the file or call it project as you wish has no relation with what the teacher of French are doing , they teach with project for example
project 1 : informative
all the sequences , the texts , the task and the situation of integration serve the learning objective ( informatif)
anf their book and guides state that

which is not our case in one page we have more than two learning objectives
the


Idea of working with project was suggested to the inspectors in the meeting of Blida , they asked them to TELL ( No one showed them how to do that) the teacher to forget about FIle and write project 1 : lesson 1:..... and work

Now what are some of the teacher doing ?

the majority is still working as usual some have till now did not hear about even the new changes 1- :

1- Some are just writing Project 1 : lesson 1 :; and they omitted what has been omitted in the new changes adn they are teachinc as usual

2- SOme forgot about the book and they are struggling they are planning their own book , each teacher with his or her own book and everyday they are looking for new material to plan their lessons ( As if they are teaching in Private school)

3- SOme have omiited the lessons that have been slimmed down in the new syllabus ( by the way there is no new syllabus it's the same they just added two lesosn in the MS4 and omitted one in MS1 and replaced it again by another and one in MS2 which is the same with the one of MS3 and planned it by the end of MS4)

In One School teachers are wokinrg differently so how can we progress and reach our goal and the most important the majority ingore the NEw BEM guide which from it the BEM Exam will be planned

Good Luck

[nina02]

hi Mr. Samir
You are right in all what you have said .I'm still working with the files .I couldn't work with the projects for the reasons that we have different learning objectives in one file . How can we unify the objectives ??,
As I said before , we have the yearly plannings , the exit profiles and the BEM guide .I think we have to work with these three means to save our learners and lead them to what they must know . I guess it's the only way to help ourselves and our learners not to be OUT.
Still waiting for the news .
May GOd help us .

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam my Madam Nina02

Yes you are right no one asked the teacher to work with that idea some inspctors asked their teachers without explaining them how to work

This document shows all the details of the new chenges ( frankly there are no changes )

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iw1leplzpw7u4r5/allegement%20anglais%20%28Enregistr%C3%A9%20automa tiquement%29.pdf


It SUGGESTS for eample on Term Two ( MAKE a career profile ) this is the final production of the file three , our learners were asked to do One project with for each file now to make things less hard they asked them to make one

the work with project has this features

1- The Project work ( final production of the final which just a situation of intgration and too othe form of project work)
2- project based learning whicb is itself an approach
2- the work with "porjet" like our colleagues of French do

Thes best to work and kame things easier as you saidi to look at the table on page 20 and omit the lesosns that have been slimmed and work

Of course qwe have some freedom ( autonomy) to SARS what suits our learner and nebr neglect the BOOK , it is clearly stated in this document

Thank you

[" أبو عبود"]

At least we are free to teach freely until we have the new books cause the sheets we received weren't useful enough to help us overcome the difficulties. but in my point of view, i like the idea to teach by weeks.to illustrate, i teach eavh learning objective in a week. i can even name the lessons according to the week. lesson 1/lesson2/lesson 3 so i can make pupils aware of the changes and even recognise how many lessons are there for each objective.. this is the way until they send the new book.

[NADJI 1]

hello ,dear colleagues
what you said is really true
In fact , there aren't big changes ,but just a mixture with thiis planning.The same for the bem giuide
personally, i liked the supression of passive form in 2 ms ,
Concerning the way of working -this year - we don't have choices,i think we must put in nmind the omitted lessons and follow the yearly plannings we have
if there are texts or activities in the book,we should use them ,if not ,we must do pour best to find suitable ones .
waiting for the new books . .

[" أبو عبود"]

what I really don't like when our pupils are surprised by new kinds of instructions and question in the BEM. I t happened when they gave them wh questions.

[nina02]

Hi
Thanks so much my dearest colleagues .You can never imagine how much you helped and gave me strength to work. It's so useful to help one another since we have the same objectives ( to save our learners and facilitate our tasks )
We , teachers , should work in collaboration since our learners will take common subjects in the BEM exams and because there is none else who can help us only teachers of the same subject can help because we are in the field with the programme and the learners who are waiting for us to give them lessons and all what they need .So we are the most concerned .We should not wait for the others to save and help us .
Honestly , I am eager to see the new books but since we don't have them now , we shouldn't give up working .We have to solve it .
Thanks again for your help .

[NADJI 1]

good evening ,Mr.Ryad
wh qqs are not mentioned in the guide ,but we must train pps how to answer them .i dont know why we are teaching them .we mustn't neglect them in our tests and exams just in case ....... .

[NADJI 1]

what i don't like for 1 ms is giving only one week=2 hours for what we used to call pre-file for the alphabet, school commends ............................. it seems that these 'deciders' do not live in algeria.
1ms pps at the beginning of the year consider english as different and dificult ,we must be very careful with them ,we must check their copybookds and learning every session
really ,we need more time so that we can work well

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam my friends

I dont' agree witht he idea saying we are free till we receive the new books , WHo said that there are new book? Till now there is nothing .
What happened SOME interpreted the New Instructions in a wrong way So they made the work Hard for their teachers . What was said to the Inspectors is JUST INSTEAD of WRITNG ( Listen and Speak / Goforward/ Discover the ********...... ) Teachers Write at the beginning of the File Project ( Here the PROJECT is the FINAL PRODUCTION of THE FILE ) Pupils used to do for each FIle a project work ,

NOW , they are JUST asked to DO ONE project in ONE TERM and this project can be about chosen from any of the files taught during the term .
And page 3 of this document shows that
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iw1leplzpw7u4r5/allegement%20anglais%20%28Enregistr%C3%A9%20automa tiquement%29.pdf
.
So teacher write at the beginning of the file File + title ( for the levels MS1-2&3) Sequence + Lesson ( 1-2...) + the title ( which must be the learning objective of the lesson
For MS4 at the beginning of each file teachers discuss the NEw PROJECT WORK ( this is the case for ALL the LEVELS ) so for this level FIle + title ( first hour) then what comes after ( Lesson(1/2/3...) + Title the learning objective of that lesson )
Just a remark for the session which comes after lesson that deal with PPU or PDP + PIASP ( grammar / pronunciation) the lesson of Practice here teacher can WRITE Practice
allegement anglais (Enregistré automatiquement).pdf
www.dropbox.com

So as Mr Nadji said there are no big changes , I told you before jsut omit the lessons set in the tables you recieved in your school
page 18 of this document


https://www.dropbox.com/s/iw1leplzpw7u4r5/allegement%20anglais%20%28Enregistr%C3%A9%20automa tiquement%29.pdf

what is new in the syllabus is the emphesis on the 3 IIP and the entry and exit profile and the PPU & PDP frame works

For the BEM guide , now it' smore practical and contains less tasks than the one of October 2007 which will make things easier for our learners sonce they will get used to few instructions

Concerning the Reference qqs they are omitted from the guide in order to avoid ambiguity for the learners duirng the exams , but this does not mean that teacher do not teach them ,.

Thank You

[" أبو عبود"]

Wh questions are not omitted but if given the must be accompanied with the naswers and the pupil should match them with the answers. so we have to teach them and not neglect them. please have a look at the guide.
concerning the new book we heard there will be until that time we have to manage to solve this problem sometimes using the book and other times seek anything in the net to achieve the objectives.

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Wh questions are not omitted but if given the must be accompanied with the naswers and the pupil should match them with the answers. so we have to teach them and not neglect them. please have a look at the guide.
concerning the new book we heard there will be until that time we have to manage to solve this problem sometimes using the book and other times seek anything in the net to achieve the objectives.

Yes you are right
what we meant by omitted Independent questions and in order to avoid any ambiguity they set that task they are used within a table

and for the book believe me my friend there is nothing official about that

Yes agree the teacher must not be the Slave of the book , he or she must SARS what suits his learners but the fact to neglect the book this is totally inacceptable

Good Luck

[nina02]

hi
If we could neglect the books , we shouldn't ask our learners to buy them .Learners use the books either at home and at school .We may adapt some text but our and the learners' support is the book .
For the WH qqs . , I think that we should train our learners to answer them from the 1st year .They may be omitted in the BEM guide but learners have to know them .

[amani hassan]

Salam,
I'm so happy that we (teachers of English) have this forum to help each other and coordinate to improve more and more our learners' level .
So Thank u so much
May allah bless u all

[" أبو عبود"]

I guess this page is in the way of distinction

[**تقوى الايمان**]

Good afternoon every body....i'm trainee teacher and next week nshlh the training will be..so pliiiiiiiiiiz i want u to give me lesson plan of sequenses of file three and file 4 for second year...and file 3 and 4 for 4th year???????

pliizz i haven't understood well the syllabus of 4th and 2nd year..i can't understand how i should work bu using it??????????????


10x in advance'

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam my friend

Welcome to the family

concerning your request just go to the first pages of this page forum and you will find all the documents and they way they can be taught

try and if u still face problems let me know

Good Luck

[nina02]

Hi my colleagues
Mawlid nabaoui moubarek for all of you

[NADJI 1]

thank u very much nina

[NADJI 1]

i don't know what's the problem !i have been trying to send messages for many days ,but i couldn't
i write my pas word ,but i remain on the same page .i tried and tied ,but always the same thing
i also noticed that sending messages is easier when it's late or in the very morning

[NADJI 1]

how are doing colleagues with projectss 2.is everthing ok ,

[" أبو عبود"]

i had this problem too. i even can't change the word size or coulour.

[nina02]

hi Mrs. Oum Nadji ,

To tell the truth , I am still in poject one with the 2nd year . The simple past with regular and irregular

verbs took too much time . Now , I am in the lesson "expressing ability / Making request ".

[" أبو عبود"]

hhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm still there in the samle lesson and objective

[nina02]

Hi Mr. Riyad ,

Happy to hear that there are some colleagues who are in the same lesson like me .
I thought I am the latest teacher and the slowest one .But believe me , I don't like working fast .I prefer to be sure of the first step then go to another one. I want to be sure that my learners know what to do and how to do it .
That's why I take care and time of some difficult lessons and don't bother myself with the time .
thanks

[nina02]

Hi Mr. Riyad ,

Happy to hear that there are some colleagues who are in the same lesson like me .
I thought I am the latest teacher and the slowest one .But believe me , I don't like working fast .I prefer to be sure of the first step then go to another one. I want to be sure that my learners know what to do and how to do it .
That's why I take care and time of some difficult lessons and don't bother myself with the time .
thanks

[NADJI 1]

good evening nina02

[NADJI 1]

ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuf ,at last i could send a message
i don't know what' the problem with the net these days
dear nina ,don't worry . you are not late .2am projoct 1 or as it was caller file is very long ,many important lessons .If we do not take care ,we or our colleagues will suffer the next year
i don't hae the 2 am . i have no problem with 3 am praogram ,but i have a very big one with 1 am
i haven't finished project 1 yet .itommorow i'll present sports
i

[" أبو عبود"]

I have the same problem i send messages the next day i do'nt find them so i have to fresh the pages many tumes o they appear.
you have to ******* the first page and wait until it appears again then move to the last one so you can see your participatiosn

[oum didou]

?Hello dear colleagues I really need your help in 3AM level when I reached Ask for clarification ,permission obligation . what do they mean

[oum didou]

Where are you dear colleagues I am facing a problem in the 3AM level I need your help when I reached Ask for clarification permission obligation what do they mean

[NADJI 1]

good evening oum didou.i haven't reached these lessons yet .
i'm in locating amenities .i in the first lesson i presented amenities ,and aked pps to write about their hometown (what's there )lesson 2 locating using a map and prepositions odplace
then i'll present lessons in asking for and giving directions

[NADJI 1]

concerning asking for permission ,you must find or invent a short dialogue (in a bus or a train for example with an illustrating picture :a passenger asiking another to sit next to him/her ,ask qqs about the dialogue explain the use of may /can
.then make pps practise practise :guided ( ask for permission using can i or may i according to pictures ) and free pactice ask for permission from your teacher or friend to do something in the cass
i presented this lesson in file 1 using the data show ,it was very successful
at that time i still use the term file because we didn't meet our inspector or colleagues,but i tried to follow the yearly planning

[" أبو عبود"]

unfortunatly I don't have the book otherwise I could have helped you.

[NADJI 1]

concerning asking for clarification ,i haven't decided yet what activities i 'll do ,but we have to write simple dialogues for example at a train or a bus station with qqs of a passener about travel schedules with the expressions :sorry, could you repeat ,please ....sorry ,i didn't hear you
.........
then we can foe example give situations to learners and ask them about what they would say in those situations
that's all for now .
i 'm thinking of a text for my test ,it will be on monday
good night :)

[" أبو عبود"]

[QUOTE=NADJI 1;1055437783]ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuf ,at last i could send a message
i don't know what' the problem with the net these days
dear nina ,don't worry . you are not late .2am projoct 1 or as it was caller file is very long ,many important lessons .If we do not take care ,we or our colleagues will suffer the next year
i don't hae the 2 am . i have no problem with 3 am praogram ,but i have a very big one with 1 am
i haven't finished project 1 yet .itommorow i'll present sports
i[/QUOTEMrs. oum nadji
If you are still facing problems with internet change your browser if you are using mozilla. i have changed to safari and i solved the problem

[NADJI 1]

unfortunatly I don't have the book otherwise I could have helped you.
i 've just read your message ,thank you any way mr.ryad

[NADJI 1]

there is a dialogue page 25 about intonation ,i but it is about phne calls and phone numbers
we are dealing with travel and locating ,we don't have any dialoue in the present book so we should write simple ones ,no problem.we are used to this situation now

[NADJI 1]

there is also dialogue page 27,just to hava some ideas ,but it is between a waiter and a customer .you can change the situation

[NADJI 1]

in addition -of course to act 2 on the same page
so, i think we should start with a situation -dialogue - of course related to travel ...... qqs about it ..... then isolation of the stucture .....stating rules .....practicte

[NADJI 1]

[QUOTE=NADJI 1;1055437783]ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuf ,at last i could send a message
i don't know what' the problem with the net these days
dear nina ,don't worry . you are not late .2am projoct 1 or as it was caller file is very long ,many important lessons .If we do not take care ,we or our colleagues will suffer the next year
i don't hae the 2 am . i have no problem with 3 am praogram ,but i have a very big one with 1 am
i haven't finished project 1 yet .itommorow i'll present sports
i[/QUOTEMrs. oum nadji
If you are still facing problems with internet change your browser if you are using mozilla. i have changed to safari and i solved the problem

i'm using mozilla,yes .but today no problems

thank you very much

[nina02]

The problem with the 1st year learners is the same like the one of the 2nd year learners because two hours a week

are not enough to achieve the prongramme .But in my opinion , if the learners of the first year are able to describe

themselves , their friends , members of their families , dairy activities using the simple present and the adverbs of

frequency , it's enough for them to start the 2nd year level the next year .

[nina02]

Hi everybody

Mrs.Oum Nadji
The problem with the 1st year learners is the same like the one of the 2nd year learners because two hours a week are not enough to achieve the whole programme .
But in my opinion , if the learners of the first year are able to describe
themselves , their friends , members of their families , dairy activities using the simple present and the adverbs of
frequency ,at the end of the 1st year , it's enough for them to start the 2nd year level the next year .

[Daylight]

Hi everybody

Mrs.Oum Nadji
The problem with the 1st year learners is the same like the one of the 2nd year learners because two hours a week are not enough to achieve the whole programme .
But in my opinion , if the learners of the first year are able to describe
themselves , their friends , members of their families , dairy activities using the simple present and the adverbs of
frequency ,at the end of the 1st year , it's enough for them to start the 2nd year level the next year .

youare right I totally agree with you

[" أبو عبود"]

I don't agree with the inspectors when they say " don't teach grammar" and if we dont teach grammar what should we teach? I can't understand how we teach function without grammar.
expressing obligation/prohibition using what?

[" أبو عبود"]

I don't agree with the inspectors when they say " don't teach grammar" and if we dont teach grammar what should we teach? I can't understand how we teach function without grammar.
expressing obligation/prohibition using what?

[nina02]

hi
You are right Mr.Riyad .I noticed that in the syllabus and the programme of the 1st and the 2 year , they focus on Grammar lessons but in the 3rd and the 4th year's programme , they reinforce some grammar lessons and focus more on the reading comprehension and the written expression ( written production
I think that we should not neglect the grammar lessons in the four levels .

[oum didou]

Thank you very much Mrs Oum Nadji but don't you think that it's a wast of time to repeat such lessons I meanCLARIFICATION and what about the present perfect which appear on the third term in my opinion they have devided file three so we should start by obligation then actions in the past what's your opinion

[noor hassenl]

hi teachers
concerning 3ms what are the omitted lessons
how about the present perfect i don't see it in the new repartition ? is it omitted?

[nina02]

hi noor
I don't teach the 3rd year learners this year , but I had a look at the omitted lessons of the 4 levels last September.
I remember that they asked us to teach the present perfect with EITHER "already and yet" OR with " since and for " for the 3rd year learners.
The present perfect occurs in the yearly planning of the 4th year this year although I don't really know in which context we"ll teach it .I am not bothered because file 5 is omitted in the 4th year programme .so , we'll have time to do the present perfect at the end of the year as a revision since we have already done this lesson with the learners last year (when they were in the third year )
I hope I could help and I wish that other teachers will send us theis point of view to share .

[Daylight]

hi teachers
concerning 3ms what are the omitted lessons
how about the present perfect i don't see it in the new repartition ? is it omitted?

go to page 63 you ll find some answers

[fayza0908]

salam 3alikom
i have a question .what about American and Algerian pre-university educational system lesson for the 4th year.it isn't metioned in this year plannig. will we do it or no?

[ريشة خير]

Salam my friends,
Mr Samir bounab can't answer you there is a problem in login for him and the problem will be solved soon inchaa Allah
He gives his regards to all of you and says it's technical problem.

Good luck

[Daylight]

Salam my friends,
Mr Samir bounab can't answer you there is a problem in login for him and the problem will be solved soon inchaa Allah
He gives his regards to all of you and says it's technical problem.

Good luck


were waiting for him hopefully soon

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam my friends

sorry for being late due to a technical problem

here are my tests for the 2nd term

MS4 level :


https://www.dropbox.com/s/vaenpvoi5rapkwg/MS4%20test%201%202nd%20term%202013%202014%20%20.pd f


MS2

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbsqrq6gruhn1cu/MS2%20level%20%20test%201%202nd%20term%202013%2020 14%20.pdf


Any comments are welcome

Good Luck

[Aline14]

Thank you very much Mr. Samir for all the efforts you do to enlighten teachers of English in Algeria.

[aya collo]

Many teachers do not like the in service training courses in fact they are wrong this performence is a technique of learning and acquiringteaching tips it is a privilegethat allows us to learn from each other
in my school my colleagues said we do not want toobserve anyteacher and we donot want to be observed

[fayza0908]

salam 3alikom
i have a question .what about American and Algerian pre-university educational system lesson for the 4th year.it isn't metioned in this year plannig. will we do it or no?

waiting for your comments

[nina02]

Hi everybody
welcome back Mr. Bounab . we missed your comments and ideas .

[nina02]

hi Fayza 0908
In my opinion , even if this lesson is not mentioned in the yearly planing of the 4th year , I prefer to do it if I have time at least as a reading text then a written production about our pre university educational system. I think that it's so important for our learners to have idea about the different system of educa

[nina02]

It's my personal opinion .And I think that we have enough time to achieve the programme of the forth year .That's why I'll plan to do it in the class with my learners .I hope that other teachers will give their point of view .
thanks

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam my friends

thanks nina for your welcome

yes the American and Algerian educaitonal system is not omitted

nothing is omitted in file 3

and nina said we have plenty of time

so just omit the lessons you see in the tables page 19 -20 of the allegement document and work as you used to work

good luck

[fayza0908]

hi Fayza 0908
In my opinion , even if this lesson is not mentioned in the yearly planing of the 4th year , I prefer to do it if I have time at least as a reading text then a written production about our pre university educational system. I think that it's so important for our learners to have idea about the different system of educa

Salam my friends

thanks nina for your welcome

yes the American and Algerian educaitonal system is not omitted

nothing is omitted in file 3

and nina said we have plenty of time

so just omit the lessons you see in the tables page 19 -20 of the allegement document and work as you used to work

good luck
thank you very much my friends

[nina02]

hi my dearest colleagues ,

Would you please tell me what "ctd" which is in the yearly planning of the 4th year level (in the 22nd week ) mean ?

thanks .

[" أبو عبود"]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ctd continue we also couldn't understand it until a colleague found this Fatwa for us.

[" أبو عبود"]

ctd= continued

[nina02]

hi
thanks so much Mr. Riyad . I couldn't decode it .
thanks again .

[nina02]

hi
thanks so much Mr. Riyad . I couldn't decode it .
thanks again .

[aya collo]

Hi NINA
CTd is a French word which means contenu du document
Iasked MR Bounab about it afew weeks ago

[nina02]

hi dear colleagues
thanks to Mr'.Riyad and thanks to Mrs. Aya collo for your answers .Both explanation and interpretation seem to be cprrect .
The most important is that we can solve our problems together .So happy to share the difficulties and the ideas with you , teachers
thanks again .

[salihastar]

It is stated that we should omit predicting in file 2 seq 3 level 3am? Should we omit the hole seq3??? Is there anyone on the forum who teaches 3am and faced the problem????

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

salam

to understand that you must have the slimming of june 2008
and it is clearly stated that is is omitted so u omit it
and the same for the present perfect it is complety omitted from MS2 and MS3

good luck

[nina02]

hi Mr.Bounab
I don't teach the 3rd year learners this year .But what I've understood in the omitted lessons about the present perfect is :
it is omitted for the 2nd year but for the 3rd year they asked us to teach it either with already and yet or with since and four .And we'll reinforce and continue the other lessons about the present perfect in the 4th year.
Am I wrong ?

[nina02]

hi Mr. Bounab
I don't teach the 3rd year learners this year but according to what I've seen about the omitted lessons of the 3rd year , they mentioned that the present perfect will be taught with either "already nd yet " or "since and for ". And in the 4th year teachers will do a follow up of this lesson .

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

salam

no
the present perfect is OMITTED be sure of this
do not teach it

[nina02]

hi Mr. Bounab
Logically you are right since the learners are going to see it in the 4th year . but if you go to the yearly planning of the 3rd year , you'll find the present perfect with since and for in April in the 29th week .
Now if we , teachers , decide not to do it in the 3rd year and leave it till the 4th year , it's okay since we know what and why we are doing these changes and all of us or most of us agree on it .

[Mr.Samir Bounab]

Salam

The present perfect is omitted from the MS3 level
and that yealry planning is the cause of all these problems

Good Luck