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قديم 2009-06-10, 12:17   رقم المشاركة : 1
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17 Right or Wrong and why

Peace and blessings of Allah be upon you
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قديم 2009-06-10, 19:20   رقم المشاركة : 2
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Hello
Well, If I answer you question! Will you give me a gift
Answer me










قديم 2009-06-10, 20:31   رقم المشاركة : 3
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The bet










قديم 2009-06-11, 08:43   رقم المشاركة : 4
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Hello, again
Mr. Walid63 and Queen Balkis2, I'm still waiting for your answers. When you answer them , we will discuss together the gift
Regards









قديم 2009-06-11, 11:04   رقم المشاركة : 5
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Peace and blessings of Allah be upon you
Hello, again friends
Just a simple question, I would like to ask you if the following sentences are grammatically right or wrong. and why

Karim had got flu
Did Amira have got any children
They didn’t have got to wait long
We will have got to be on time
I'm waiting for your answers
Kind regards

Hello Matrix
before i answer your question tell me. Are u an inspector???









قديم 2009-06-11, 11:14   رقم المشاركة : 6
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Hello, Mr Aliallawa
What a wonderful surprise! Really I'm so delighted to see you again on the Forum
Well, I'm not an inspector
Now, could you answer please my question
Regards









قديم 2009-06-11, 11:34   رقم المشاركة : 7
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.
The bet
If you give me the right answers, maybe I'll send you 100 DA(Through Flixy just kidding )
Regards









قديم 2009-06-11, 17:32   رقم المشاركة : 8
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hello everybody,
thanks for the enriching participation. I think the best gift I would like to have if I were right is more and more good practice of these sort of things.
I think the right form is
Karim had flu because the verb have got should never be used in past and future. the same thing with did amina have (got) .. and the other examples.
the kindest regards.










قديم 2009-06-11, 19:49   رقم المشاركة : 9
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hello everybody,
thanks for the enriching participation. I think the best gift I would like to have if I were right is more and more good practice of these sort of things.
I think the right form is
Karim had flu because the verb have got should never be used in past and future. the same thing with did amina have (got) .. and the other examples.
the kindest regards.
Hello, everybody
Special thanks to Restless
Indeed all your answers are right. Congratulations , you're absolutely right, "Have got" should never be used in past and future tenses
Note: We can say
?Excuse me, do you have a grammar book
Or
?Have you got a grammar book
But the first one is recommended
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Karim had flu
?Did Amira have any children
They didn’t have to wait long
We will have to be on time
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And Allah knows best
Please accept my best wishes and kind regards
Merci pour votre présence et votre participation









قديم 2009-06-11, 22:03   رقم المشاركة : 10
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Good day,
This is my answer ..................and I'm waiting for the prize .
1-Karim had got flu---------------------right ---------the past perfect of verb (to get )
to have in the past + past participle of to get
2-Did Amira have got any children---------wrong-----we don't use did with the present perfect.....instead we say: Had Amira got any children?
3-They didn’t have got to wait long----------wrong----
we don't use did with the present perfect-instead of it we say: They had not got to wait long.
3-We will have got to be on time--------------right---future perfect tense with obligation or necessity meaning....
Please keep on asking such questions. They are really interesting.
Thanks dear....










قديم 2009-06-11, 22:21   رقم المشاركة : 11
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اقتباس:
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Good day,
This is my answer ..................and I'm waiting for the prize .
1-Karim had got flu---------------------right ---------the past perfect of verb (to get )
to have in the past + past participle of to get
2-Did Amira have got any children---------wrong-----we don't use did with the present perfect.....instead we say: Had Amira got any children?
3-They didn’t have got to wait long----------wrong----
we don't use did with the present perfect-instead of it we say: They had not got to wait long.
3-We will have got to be on time--------------right---future perfect tense with obligation or necessity meaning....
Please keep on asking such questions. They are really interesting.
Thanks dear....

Hello dear walid 63 . welcome back from Djelfa. i missed u so much. well done for the answers . They r all true. thnx and thnx to Matrix for his efforts to improve the English Lang level.









قديم 2009-06-12, 18:37   رقم المشاركة : 12
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Good day,



This is my answer ..................and I'm waiting for the prize .
1-Karim had got flu---------------------right ---------the past perfect of verb (to get )
to have in the past + past participle of to get
2-Did Amira have got any children---------wrong-----we don't use did with the present perfect.....instead we say: Had Amira got any children?

3-They didn’t have got to wait long----------wrong----
we don't use did with the present perfect-instead of it we say: They had not got to wait long.

3-We will have got to be on time--------------right---future perfect tense with obligation or necessity meaning....

Please keep on asking such questions. They are really interesting.
Thanks dear....




Hello, dear friends: Walid63, Aliallawa, Restless, Queen Balkis2
Thank you all for your attempts and for all your kind comments. But Mr. Walid ,it sould be noted that: "Have got" can only be used in present, and it should never be used in past and future tenses
And "Have got" is not the Present perfect of the verb To get, but in fact it's the Simple present , so "I have"or "I have got" are the same
Regards









قديم 2009-06-12, 23:33   رقم المشاركة : 13
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CAS PARTICULIERS OU "HAVE GOT" EST INTERDIT
1) A l'impératif
- Have got the TV working by tonight, please.
- Have got your homework done.
2) A l'infinitif
- Have you got compassion? It is admirable to have got compassion for one's fellow man.
- She has got a beautiful car. I would like to have got one like hers.
3) Où le verbe peut prendre l'aspect progressif quand 'have' a le sens de
prendre, passer, faire, etc.
- I'm having breakfast now. I usually have got breakfast before 8 a.m.
- I'm having an unusually good day today. I rarely have got days as good as these.
- I had a wonderful dream last night! Usually, I have got nightmares!
4) Aux formes composées
- I’ve got a car (present); I’ve had got it for three years (present perfect).
5) Aux structures causatives
- I have got my kids take turns taking out the garbage.
- I'm having my hair cut today. I have got my hair cut at least once every three months.
6) Aux autres temps
"Have got" ne s’emploie JAMAIS aux temps passés et futurs.
Les questions et les phrases négatives se construisent avec "do" (pour les temps passés)
et "will" (pour les futurs).
- She had got flu.
- Did Shakespeare have got any children?
- They didn’t have got to wait long.
- We will have got to be on time.
REMARQUES :
· Dans le style soutenu "got" ne s'emploie pas et "have" se conjugue alors comme
un verbe ordinaire avec ou sans "do" aux formes interrogatives ou négatives.
- Excuse me, do you have a light? (Pardon, avez vous du feu?) (Soutenu)
- Have you got a light? (Avez vous du feu ?) (Familier)
· Dans un langage familier, on dit parfois : I got a cat.
Mais ce n'est pas du bon anglais. On peut omettre le "got" mais pas le 'have'.
A moins qu'on ne veuille employer le prétérit de "get": Yesterday, I got a cat









قديم 2009-06-13, 09:14   رقم المشاركة : 14
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Hello, dear Walid63
Please read again my question
Regards









قديم 2009-06-13, 12:20   رقم المشاركة : 15
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HAVE (avoir)
Have peut être employé comme verbe et opérateur.
- En tant qu’auxiliaire, il est surtout utilisé pour former les Perfects (les temps
composés, associés au participe passé). To have se conjugue alors sans l’auxiliaire DO
Present perfect: They have bought a new car.
Past perfect: They had bought a new car.
Future perfect: They will have bought a new car.
Past conditional: They would have bought a new car.
- En tant que verbe "avoir", il fait appel à l’opérateur DO (does / did) pour les
questions et les négations au Présent et au Prétérit simples, comme tous les autres
verbes sauf BE.
I have lunch at 7 – I don’t have lunch at 7 – Do you have lunch at 7?

* les formes contractées sont entre parenthèses
Has got n’existe pas au prétérit. On ne dit donc pas I had got mais I had.
Le prétérit had est surtout employé pour les temps composés, exprimant en général un
contexte passé.
- We had played - We hadn't played - Had we played ?
HAVE OU HAVE GOT
Have got a la même signification que "have" et ne s’emploie qu’au temps présent.
Have got n’est PAS le Present Perfect de get. Il est construit comme un present perfect.
Mais il est en fait un Simple Present.
"Got" ne change donc pas le sens du verbe (I have = I have got = J'ai).
Pour les phrases interrogatives et négatives, on emploie:
- l’auxiliaire DO pour have
- l’auxiliaire HAVE pour have got.
Informal: How many subsidiaries has your company got?
Formal: How many subsidiaries does your company have?
- It has (got) two.
Dans le langage familier, "Have got" peut remplacer "(do) have" au simple présent pour
exprimer :
1) La possession (l'appartenance)
- Have you got a car? = Do you have a car?
- I haven't got a car; I've only got a bicycle. = I don't have a car; I only have a bicycle.
2) Les attributs
- She's got blue eyes. = She has blue eyes.
- She hasn't got blue eyes. = She doesn't have blue eyes.
- Has she got blue eyes? = Does she have blue eyes?
3) L’obligation immediate
- I've got to finish my homework. = I have to finish my homework.
- I’ve got to write a letter. = I have to write a letter.
4) Quand "have" et "have got" sont interchangeables
Mais on aura tendance à utiliser 'have got' quand on fait (ou pourrait faire) face à la
chose ou l'attribut possédé, ou l'obligation qu'il faut satisfaire.
- You've got ketchup on your chin.
- Please, you've just got to help me; it's urgent!
- Have you got the TV working yet?
5) Quand on veut parler d'habitudes et de situations répétées.
Etats temporaires ==> have got
- I haven't got any milk today. (Je n'ai pas de lait aujourd'hui.)
- She's got toothache at the moment.
Etats permanents ==> have
- I don't often have milk in the house. (Je n'ai pas souvent de lait à la maison.)
- She often has toothache.









 

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