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fifty years of freedom or as we think

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قديم 2012-07-10, 18:42   رقم المشاركة : 1
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Hillin
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Hi friends
First of all,I would say thank you “spy for urself” for sharing us such Interesting subject
Yeah I agree with you for the extent that “50 years ………. along period of time………. and Algeria scored “No change”. Unemployement ,unfortunately, reached its peak.However, I think the problem is not the government itself ,we are involved as well.How can we ask the government to change our lives,or to give us much more works at the same time we are Bad strikers and Bad thinkers; that is to say we use violence inorder to get our right and because simply we believe that we are much more clever than the government. I saw when strikes start in Algeria, stikers destroyed every thing came across their eyes. Let me speak about another fact which really hurt me, I said we are bad thinker coz we did n’t see behind the lines,we often blame the Government for not giving us our right of getting a job meanwhile our blame must be directed to those who stand behind(corrupted and dishonest persons; usually they are the employers).
By the way,those countries ,which scored economical improvement,have a well educated people who are ,in fact , clever strikers.I’ll give you an example. In Japan, for instance,strikers tend to work extra hours , they are clever,they do so coz they know that increasing in the product means decreasing in the price and thus the government will face an economic crisis “stagnation”.
Algeria, compared to japan,when workers wanna get back their right generally they stop working or thru enjoy destroying !!!!!
In short, I would like to say nothing comes out of the blue, inorder to change and live like the other developed countries we have to change ourselves first then every thing would come easily later
Well, in this way I see things, it’s just my point of view
Thx again friend for the topic








 


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قديم 2012-07-10, 20:55   رقم المشاركة : 2
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hi hillin
well i see that you point out that the nature of the algerian individual is bad, but i think i said something about that, because the government is strict , people are strict too, they abide by the laws and respect them because even a minister respects them, not like here, people are hard workers becuase they're getting their rights completely, they dont need..well for most of time..to strike
so give me my whole rights, i will be a hard worker and a good citizen
thank you hillin for your comment
wish the best for our country










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قديم 2012-07-11, 10:05   رقم المشاركة : 3
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Hillin
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hi hillin
well i see that you point out that the nature of the algerian individual is bad, but i think i said something about that, because the government is strict , people are strict too, they abide by the laws and respect them because even a minister respects them, not like here, people are hard workers becuase they're getting their rights completely, they dont need..well for most of time..to strike
so give me my whole rights, i will be a hard worker and a good citizen
thank you hillin for your comment
wish the best for our country

by:Spy4urself



Hi friend and thank you for clarifying ur point of view

Yeah
I know that strict laws organize people. For me , however, this fact which well used in the other countries, is useless in Algeria. We have strict laws but we often break them, thus I said we need to change ourselves before, we have too much corrupted people, and (corr………………….,)I’ll give u simple example; concerning the educational field, the teacher has the right to kick the student who cheats in the exams out ,however, nowadays it comes impossible to do so, the student becomes stronger than his teacher!!!!to get the mark the student may even kill his teacher. Here, we may ask the question “who stand behind the student!!!n
To be clear,both the government and people are concerned here and I don’t deny coz behind every problem there is two kind of reasons,the main and sub or marginal ones, and I think people play the main role here? that’s all
This is just my opinion and I hope to not create misunderstanding
Thx again
My regards









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قديم 2012-07-11, 18:13   رقم المشاركة : 4
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المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Hillin مشاهدة المشاركة

hi
well, you know what is the source of corruption? the government, the government is an evil that restraints the society, a vital necessity neverthless, people could never know corruption if they did not see corruption in the government, when a big responsible makes a mistake no one punishes him, isnt this opression and breaking laws? (law is above all) , the individual is influenced by the deeds of the government

the student becomes stronger than his teacher"
yes indeed, why? because of the violating laws and guess who passes laws !! the government
let me sum it up in one idea : the people will become good citizens if the government becomes a good one
thank you hillin and call me just spy










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قديم 2012-07-11, 18:56   رقم المشاركة : 5
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Hillin
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[QUOTE=spy4me;10778178]
hi
well, you know what is the source of corruption? the government, the government is an evil that restraints the society, a vital necessity neverthless, people could never know corruption if they did not see corruption in the government, when a big responsible makes a mistake no one punishes him, isnt this opression and breaking laws? (law is above all) , the individual is influenced by the deeds of the government
the student becomes stronger than his teacher"
yes indeed, why? because of the violating laws and guess who passes laws !! the government
let me sum it up in one idea : the people will become good citizens if the government becomes a good one
thank you hillin and call me just spy

Well, i think friend we have different point of view :You see the government as the main reason behind this problem however and respectfully to ur's, I 'm still convienced that people have to change themselves first''we need clever strikers and not violent ones" inorder to get improvement
thank u Spy for opening such window of discussing and exchanging point of views
really i'm glad since every day I learn and discover some thing new from such topics


wish all the best for my country]









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قديم 2012-07-11, 20:51   رقم المشاركة : 6
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yes it seems that we're not on the same page, but it's ok, different views generate useful discussion , enrich and feed our minds
we may agree about something in the future
thank you again










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